More to the point try explaining to the parents of 15 year old girls that the boys throwing their girls to the ground are just playing the game and that you see girls tackling guys just as much. I'm sure when parents hear 'mixed sex team' they've visions of girls being groped in rugby scrums or their sons and daughters showering naked together drinking Champaign from the winners cup.
It cuts both ways. Growing up I only once remember having a friend over to sleep. However the impression I got was having girls sleeping over with boys was fine [with parents] so long as they had a separate room but having a boy sleeping over with a group of girls was a big no no. So many guys have been denied to opportunity to try anything girly lest it suddenly turn them gay where as when a girl prefers jeans to skirts and likes rough sports no one worries that she might become a lesbian or that this behaviour might be anything more significant than tomboyishness.
So guys doing girly things like bra fitting is viewed as suspicious from the get go. I understand that in the states some male gynaecologists are finding it hard to find work because so many practises doing gyn work have specialised as gyn centres and advertise them selves as 'female friendly' all woman practices. In the uk private health firms can discriminate on sex because they're protected by the same laws that apply to bra fitting but for the most part they don't. The NHS by virtue of being the biggest health provider in the country and by being the 1st employer almost all doctors ever have before some move on to private work has nipped it in the bud by hiring with an equal opportunities policy. Private firms need to entice the best doctors away from the NHS to say they're offering something more than what you can get for free and they can't afford to be fussy over their sex.
Of course many men prefer female doctors. Especially in urology or proctology and the ultra rare specialisation of andrology (disease specific to men). I'm sure there are some women out their who, if their breasts have to be exposed, measured and popped in and out of an endless parade of different sized bras would rather it was with a warm friendly gentle man than a no nonsense school nurse type. After all when have you ever found a heterosexual man who couldn't find something positive to say about a girls breasts.
Bra fitting may be unskilled but that hasn't stopped the government offering a btec qualification in it. Students must learn how to deal with fitting transsexuals, women with mastectomies or who are nursing, have uneven sized breasts as well as fitting room etiquette etc. exactly what sort of collage would offer this btec isn't clear but it's a recognised course. I know that major bra firms tend to keep paid 'fitting experts' on staff who run internal courses they offer to shops that stock their bras. It's a bit more than just taking 2 measurements.
Then you've got to consider other jobs which definitely are skilled like beauty therapy or holt-courtue tailoring where custom clothes, often undergarments, are nearly sown around the body as the customer stands there. It's very hard for a man to get ahead in these industries because the equal opportunities laws don't cover jobs that involve nudity.
The NHS view has traditionally been 'yes you can have a doctor of the sex of your choice [irrespective of your own sex] provided you're willing to wait for them'. If it works for the NHS I don't see why it shouldn't for bra fitting which is a lot less serious than medicine. But then that comes from the perspective of equal opportunities legislation generally being a good thing to have which varies from state to state in the usa as i understand it.
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Date: 2010-03-24 12:20 am (UTC)It cuts both ways. Growing up I only once remember having a friend over to sleep. However the impression I got was having girls sleeping over with boys was fine [with parents] so long as they had a separate room but having a boy sleeping over with a group of girls was a big no no. So many guys have been denied to opportunity to try anything girly lest it suddenly turn them gay where as when a girl prefers jeans to skirts and likes rough sports no one worries that she might become a lesbian or that this behaviour might be anything more significant than tomboyishness.
So guys doing girly things like bra fitting is viewed as suspicious from the get go. I understand that in the states some male gynaecologists are finding it hard to find work because so many practises doing gyn work have specialised as gyn centres and advertise them selves as 'female friendly' all woman practices. In the uk private health firms can discriminate on sex because they're protected by the same laws that apply to bra fitting but for the most part they don't. The NHS by virtue of being the biggest health provider in the country and by being the 1st employer almost all doctors ever have before some move on to private work has nipped it in the bud by hiring with an equal opportunities policy. Private firms need to entice the best doctors away from the NHS to say they're offering something more than what you can get for free and they can't afford to be fussy over their sex.
Of course many men prefer female doctors. Especially in urology or proctology and the ultra rare specialisation of andrology (disease specific to men). I'm sure there are some women out their who, if their breasts have to be exposed, measured and popped in and out of an endless parade of different sized bras would rather it was with a warm friendly gentle man than a no nonsense school nurse type. After all when have you ever found a heterosexual man who couldn't find something positive to say about a girls breasts.
Bra fitting may be unskilled but that hasn't stopped the government offering a btec qualification in it. Students must learn how to deal with fitting transsexuals, women with mastectomies or who are nursing, have uneven sized breasts as well as fitting room etiquette etc. exactly what sort of collage would offer this btec isn't clear but it's a recognised course. I know that major bra firms tend to keep paid 'fitting experts' on staff who run internal courses they offer to shops that stock their bras. It's a bit more than just taking 2 measurements.
Then you've got to consider other jobs which definitely are skilled like beauty therapy or holt-courtue tailoring where custom clothes, often undergarments, are nearly sown around the body as the customer stands there. It's very hard for a man to get ahead in these industries because the equal opportunities laws don't cover jobs that involve nudity.
The NHS view has traditionally been 'yes you can have a doctor of the sex of your choice [irrespective of your own sex] provided you're willing to wait for them'. If it works for the NHS I don't see why it shouldn't for bra fitting which is a lot less serious than medicine. But then that comes from the perspective of equal opportunities legislation generally being a good thing to have which varies from state to state in the usa as i understand it.